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Holy Stone or other fully external Remote ID module on Parrot Anafi?

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Since the regular Parrot Anafi (not the USA/GOV models) does not comply with the Remote ID requirements for the US, I'm looking into getting one or more fully external Remote ID modules for the drone. "Fully external" as in does not require power or GPS signal from the drone since, as far as I'm aware, the Anafi does not provide interfaces for this purpose.

Has anybody successfully mounted a Holy Stone (current favorite because of size, cost and availability) or other such module? What is your experience? Did you run into any issues?

Thanks
Oliver
 
The anafi 4k, wasn't designed for modules. The magnetometer had to be factory adjusted taking in consideration of the four motors alone.

You throw in another GPS and another transmitter on board and you can expect reduced range, EMF problems, possible balance issue, GPS of anafi to find less satellites, GPS data rate slow down, magnetic compass issues and reduced flight time for weight and battery drain to power the module.
 
Attach it to the battery and it works fine.
Good flying.
Even on the battery is not far enough away. You never want 2 separate GPS units that close together.
You also don't want 2 separate radio Txs that close. (RID TX and Anafi TX/RX)
 
I'm not sure I want to continue and fly the Anafi with an RID outside of a FRIA area in March, Not comfortable with painting the aircraft (that is this size & weight with a tattle device, that shouldn't need RID) in the sky for potential shall we say aimed interferences.

Looking at HolyStone or Autel sub 250g
 
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A drone can be 55lbs!!! and zip over you at 100mph, that was OK'd

I would be scared as hell to see that above me outside a club FRIA but it was officially OK'd.

But flying our slow and light under 1lb super quite, environment friendly anafis without a module is not.

They should have at least increased the weight limit to 3 lbs, if they are already allowing specific drones to fly with no RID modules.
 
The holy Stone HSRID01 works fine with all my Anafi devices. Velcroed to the battery on the top close to the rear it does not interfere with drone. I have had many flights without issues. Not sure where the experts are getting their information from. Many other advertisers will say anything to support their products.

Just like the strobe lights don't cause any interference. The extra weight does use battery a little faster. Strobe is required for visibility of aircraft for all other aviation.

No strobe with 3 NM visibility prohibits flying anywhere.
 
Did the same, attached some velcro to the batteries such that the HolyStone module would sit right between the unlock switch and the turn-on switch, so the center of gravity of the drone wouldn't change much, and I didn't notice any issues with the drone's flying.
 
hollystone is not a problem. Neither with interference nor with battery life. Constant environment, no wind, temperature, without hollystone and with hollystone in the rear upper part above the battery, the difference is only 23-25 seconds. Shorter with hollystone.
TX range the same. signal strength at 250 m weaker by -2dBi. I.e. the range is shortened by some 70 m. There is nothing to add.
 
hollystone is not a problem. Neither with interference nor with battery life. Constant environment, no wind, temperature, without hollystone and with hollystone in the rear upper part above the battery, the difference is only 23-25 seconds. Shorter with hollystone.
TX range the same. signal strength at 250 m weaker by -2dBi. I.e. the range is shortened by some 70 m. There is nothing to add.
 
I also have been using the Holystone module for several months and have not noticed any impact to flying. Has not affected distance, flight time, or interference. I do like the fact that holy stone RID transmission range is very limited using blue tooth somewhere between 300 to 600 feet using drone scanner or open drone id tracking apps.
 
I also have been using the Holystone module for several months and have not noticed any impact to flying. Has not affected distance, flight time, or interference. I do like the fact that holy stone RID transmission range is very limited using blue tooth somewhere between 300 to 600 feet using drone scanner or open drone id tracking apps.
I also went with the Holy Stone module. I have them on 3 drones now and I am happy with them.
 
I also went with the Holy Stone module. I have them on 3 drones now and I am happy with them.
Hi jaja6009
You seem to be very knowledgeable on this subject. For this Holy Stone device it seems to me that only a 500 foot transmission distance for tracking apps is fairly worthless to public . Wondering if authorities or law enforcement is using tracking devices that can detect at longer ranges and if so what the distance that may be? In addition also curious if authorities are recording or if flights are be saved or stored on server in real time.
 
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Hi jaja6009
You seem to be very knowledgeable on this subject. For this Holy Stone device it seems to me that only a 500 foot transmission distance for tracking apps is fairly worthless to public . Wondering if authorities or law enforcement is using tracking devices that can detect at longer ranges and if so what the distance that may be? In addition also curious if authorities are recording or if flights are be saved or stored on server in real time.
I am in Public Safety and I am our city's sUAS coordinator. Here is what I have seen firsthand along with some other items from research.

There are various companies offering their own drone tracking solutions. These usually have DJI Aeroscope for DJI drones along with an expensive RF solution for other drones. I never asked the full range but the one we borrow from the state police is in the 10's of miles since I was able to see my own personal drone at home on their drone flights list. Unfortunately I have yet had the time to sit down with the state police operator and get the full specs. We ask for the system for a special event, they set it up and send us reports. During an air show they found and had patrol units find the operator of a DJI Air that was flying during the air show. Patrol was knocking on the door within 10 minutes of the drone going up.

For apps like Drone Scanner, a lot is going to be on the phone being used an its Wifi and Bluetooth antennas and such. Some will perform better than others. But there is some hardware out there dedicated to this on Android systems, and I would wager that Drone Scanner would be much more effective with proper antennas, designed for the task.


There are other more secretive systems out there too.

I attended and worked at the community college. They have a great sUAS program with various contacts in the industry, including the FAA. Here are two stories that let you know someone is watching.
The FAA anti-drone testing operates out of KACY and the various FAA facilities there.

A professor told a friend in the FAA at KACY that his class that day would be flying outside as he taught them how to do LAANC during a conversation.
The next day, the FAA friend asked the professor why they had not flown that day. He obviously did this to make you go hmmmmm.

Another adjunct instructor left the college to work at the FAA in the anti-drone facility. She hints but does not confirm that they have or are working on ways to control, disable or bring down drones.



I have a Cat S62 phone and I was able to use Drone Scanner on a drone and operator that was 1500 feet away. This was in an area at a closed airport with no trees or buildings.
 
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I am in Public Safety and I am our city's sUAS coordinator. Here is what I have seen firsthand along with some other items from research.

There are various companies offering their own drone tracking solutions. These usually have DJI Aeroscope for DJI drones along with an expensive RF solution for other drones. I never asked the full range but the one we borrow from the state police is in the 10's of miles since I was able to see my own personal drone at home on their drone flights list. Unfortunately I have yet had the time to sit down with the state police operator and get the full specs. We ask for the system for a special event, they set it up and send us reports. During an air show they found and had patrol units find the operator of a DJI Air that was flying during the air show. Patrol was knocking on the door within 10 minutes of the drone going up.

For apps like Drone Scanner, a lot is going to be on the phone being used an its Wifi and Bluetooth antennas and such. Some will perform better than others. But there is some hardware out there dedicated to this on Android systems, and I would wager that Drone Scanner would be much more effective with proper antennas, designed for the task.


There are other more secretive systems out there too.

I attended and worked at the community college. They have a great sUAS program with various contacts in the industry, including the FAA. Here are two stories that let you know someone is watching.
The FAA anti-drone testing operates out of KACY and the various FAA facilities there.

A professor told a friend in the FAA at KACY that his class that day would be flying outside as he taught them how to do LAANC during a conversation.
The next day, the FAA friend asked the professor why they had not flown that day. He obviously did this to make you go hmmmmm.

Another adjunct instructor left the college to work at the FAA in the anti-drone facility. She hints but does not confirm that they have or are working on ways to control, disable or bring down drones.



I have a Cat S62 phone and I was able to use Drone Scanner on a drone and operator that was 1500 feet away. This was in an area at a closed airport with no trees or buildings.
Thank you for the response and taking the time to provide a very informative explanation.
 

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