Adding Remote ID to Parrot Anafi 4k

[Achernar]

With the remote id deadline approaching fast, any suggestions on how to add Remote ID to an Anafi 4k? (not USA version)

I have a DroneBeacon Db120 RemoteID (Remote ID RID) Broadcast Module with Battery SKU: S-NB-DB120 on order, but I don't know if it's going to be too heavy for my Anaifi.

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

 

[MightFlight]

I wouldn't use any external modules in fear of weight or flight changes or signal losses. I honestly am going to just enable DRI and just fly it like that. The info it broadcasts should be on par with the minimum required anyway.

 

[hyDROpunik]

I wouldn't use any external modules in fear of weight or flight changes or signal losses. I honestly am going to just enable DRI and just fly it like that. The info it broadcasts should be on par with the minimum required anyway.

You know, they say that if you think something, many others are thinking, doing or making it happen as you are thinking it. I have had many thoughts about what bad interactions I am going to have with this remote ID thing and I don't want to. I thought about doing this as well but I don't think that it is worth losing the license over it. Just might have to build FPV or go with a brand other than Parrot.

Sad because I though Parrot was better than DJI because I would just start my Parrot up and just toss it in the air and fly without any downtime. Looks cool when you do it in front of clients and gusts at events.

I would think that this would be a good backup in the case the module runs out of battery or somehow malfunctions or flies off when you are manuvering your drone.

I worry because the ANAFI is agile and quick so I would rather not have anything attached permanently to my drone and I don't think Velcro can hold that much force even if the items do not weigh too much.

 

[Achernar]

Before I ordered it, I ran a test to see if it could handle the weight. The remote Id weighs 25 grams, so I taped 4 quarters and a dime to the top of the drone, which is about the same weight and flew it around a bit inside. No problems at all so hopefully it will work.
Still waiting for the DroneBeacon to ship.

Also seeing some chatter about Remote ID being postponed again…. nothing confirmed though.

 

[ParrotAnafiFan]

Just because Ken Heron says it is. Doesn't mean it is.

 

[Achernar]

Just because Ken Heron says it is. Doesn't mean it is.

In my defense I did say “nothing confirmed”…. There does seem to be a huge back order on remote Id modules for older drones… and some issues registering serial numbers with the FAA. It’s in the realm of possibility.

On a slightly different remote Id topic…. Is remote Id e ven going to work as intended? If a drone is up 400 feet, will the remote id transmission be strong enough for someone to pick it up? Also, if someone is using their drone for nefarious purposes, I would think they would turn off the transmission or even worse, send false information.

With Skydio out of the consumer market, DJI banned by federal and state agencies, and Autel not far behind, what prosumer drone options are available at a reasonable price?

 

[ParrotAnafiFan]

RID is a fail hard from the get go. It does nothing for safety in the air. Its just a way for the public(trouble seekers), big business and law to track and record your drones flight path as well as yourself.

Keep in mind on the anafi any module hooked to the usb-c battery port can cause uknown problems such mess with RTH guestimation as well as other current draw algorythms to safely keep this in the air.

 

[Achernar]

The DroneBeacon Db120 has it's own battery so that shouldn't be a problem.

 

[hyDROpunik]

From my understanding, the attached is what standard remote ID is defined as. I do believe that when you enable RDI, it broadcasts this information. The modules do not even broadcast the status of the drone so in my opinion and comfortability, I think based off of what the drone itself broadcasts, you will be fine when you fly with DRI of the ANAFI 4K broadcasting. This is because the people with an app tracking drones will be okay since you're making yourself vulnerable.

 

[BRC]

From my understanding, the attached is what standard remote ID is defined as. I do believe that when you enable RDI, it broadcasts this information. The modules do not even broadcast the status of the drone so in my opinion and comfortability, I think based off of what the drone itself broadcasts, you will be fine when you fly with DRI of the ANAFI 4K broadcasting. This is because the people with an app tracking drones will be okay since you're making yourself vulnerable.

Hello

In order to be compliant with the regulations your drone or RID module must have an FAA-accepted Remote ID Declaration of Compliance. The Anafi 4K does not. In addition the drone or module must be registered with FAA as having a compliant device. It does not matter if DRI broadcasts same or similar information it is not compliant without an FAA DOC. I would suggest adding an inexpensive RID module as it is not worth taking the risk.

 

[jaja6009]

Hello

In order to be compliant with the regulations your drone or RID module must have an FAA-accepted Remote ID Declaration of Compliance. The Anafi 4K does not. In addition the drone or module must be registered with FAA as having a compliant device. It does not matter if DRI broadcasts same or similar information it is not compliant without an FAA DOC. I would suggest adding an inexpensive RID module as it is not worth taking the risk.

Hydro has posted a similar post weeks ago that again misses the point.

DRI does meet the intentions of Remote ID. If you follow what he says you will most likely be okay since people will see that your Anafi is broadcasting.

The point that he does not get is that this site and its sister sites are used by people to find out the correct information. Members pride themselves in self-policing these forums to ensure that people can find the correct information on a topic.

I actually do agree with him that DRI will most likely work in most cases to seem like you are compliant with Remote ID.

But, the compliant and non-subjective answer based on the FAA FAR is.........

DRI does not meet the Remote ID FAR when used with the Anafi, Anafi Thermal and Anafi FPV since there is no DOC (Declaration of Compliance) from Parrot listing the serial numbers of the sUAS and that making it so you cannot go and update your FAA registration with said serial number.

Since we are now using references to support our claims:

Advisory Circular 89-2, Section 5.9

5.9 Serial number(s): A producer must list in the DOC all serial numbers assigned to standard remote identification unmanned aircraft or remote identification broadcast modules of the make and model listed in the DOC. Each standard remote identification unmanned aircraft or remote identification broadcast module produced under a DOC must be assigned a unique serial number to allow it to be distinguished from others of the same make and model grouping. Each assigned serial number must comply with ANSI/CTA-2063-A in accordance with § 89.505. A producer that wishes to include a batch of standard remote identification unmanned aircraft or remote identification broadcast modules on a DOC could list the first serial number of the batch and the last serial number of the batch. In such a situation, the producer should provide an explanation of the process by which individual serial numbers are assigned. For example, a producer should provide a description of all elements of a serial number if those elements provide specific information.12/22/20 AC 89-25 An example of a DOC submission is included in appendix A of this AC. A producer may amend an FAA-accepted DOC to include additional serial numbers to enable the production of more units of the same make and model listed in the DOC. Appendix B of this AC provides an example of an amended DOC incorporating a new batch of serial numbers.